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diesel911
2007-09-05, 07:14 PM
We are currently developing the new Diesel Access syetm to make it more usable and interesting, first of all we will move live show schedules from all the sites to Diesel Access, also better presentation of websites is planned and VIP interface for members who have all sites access.
What I was thinking also is to add live chat between members of our sites on Diesel Access.
What do you think and shoot your suggestions!
We can do everything and this stage.
thunderfoot256
2007-09-05, 07:38 PM
What I was thinking also is to add live chat between members of our sites on Diesel Access.
What do you think and shoot your suggestions!
Not sure what you mean regarding the above :confused:
As for suggestions, can't really think of any at the moment as i'm quite happy as it is. Suprise me! boobies
thunderfoot256
2007-09-05, 07:43 PM
Not sure what you mean regarding the above :confused:
As for suggestions, can't really think of any at the moment as i'm quite happy as it is. Suprise me! boobies
Oh you mean a chatroom for us paying members shootself yes it was an idea i was thinking of putting to the forums anyway but didn't get round to it.
Good idea blablablab
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-05, 08:05 PM
Oh you mean a chatroom for us paying members shootself yes it was an idea i was thinking of putting to the forums anyway but didn't get round to it.
Good idea blablablab
actually that idea has been brought up numerous times here in the past....I like the idea:)
diesel911
2007-09-05, 09:07 PM
Not sure what you mean regarding the above :confused:
As for suggestions, can't really think of any at the moment as i'm quite happy as it is. Suprise me! boobies
We will surprise for sure :) Just want to hear new ideas.
You use it daily so we want to make it well for you
diesel911
2007-09-05, 09:07 PM
actually that idea has been brought up numerous times here in the past....I like the idea:)
Yeah we will put it up
Yeah we will put it up
Good idea. :thankyou
Sounds good. This was something we have discussed before.
How's development of live chat software going?
boy1dur
2007-09-06, 04:40 AM
Oh you mean a chatroom for us paying members shootself yes it was an idea i was thinking of putting to the forums anyway but didn't get round to it.
Good idea blablablab
???? I don't understand this, Only Paying members can Access the chatroom now.
boy1dur
2007-09-06, 04:45 AM
How about a forum access in the Diesel Access area. (where any member from any or all sites can access the forum faster).
And the same with the past recorded cam chat show archives? ;)
bradpears
2007-09-06, 11:44 AM
Love the idea of a chatroom, looking forward to hearong more about it.
Brad :thumbsup peace
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-06, 01:51 PM
???? I don't understand this, Only Paying members can Access the chatroom now.
no this means a chat room for us members just to talk with one another...not to see shows
Like the idea of live chat.
boy1dur
2007-09-06, 05:11 PM
no this means a chat room for us members just to talk with one another...not to see shows
Ah so like the forums here, but chatting live with each other, cool.
thunderfoot256
2007-09-06, 05:19 PM
Yes a chatroom where we can talk to the dynamic duo blablablab
One other thing diesel, i see lana and sasha can post on forum, ivana has her blog, but what about my 2 favourites, The urals superstar aka Olesya and the tiger baby?
Ok The crazy baby might not be able to understand too much yet but her english really is coming on well, but olesya can. Is it possible to set it up for her to post here if she wanted?blablablab blablablab :tj
If working now we could be chatting about where we think Tiger is and why her show has not yet started :D
thunderfoot256
2007-09-06, 05:22 PM
Yeah and we could be blaming diesel for it, madbam HAHA only joking, but the tiger baby shows are starting to get delayed a little too much for my liking lately, maybe its technical maybe not but lets hope its not the sign of things to come.:wow:
The urals superstar aka Olesya and the tiger baby?
Ok The crazy baby might not be able to understand too much yet but her english really is coming on well, but olesya can. Is it possible to set it up for her to post here if she wanted?blablablab blablablab :tj
I will happily take any thing that includes The Crazy Baby.:banana :banana
And the baby needs to get an Comp and I-Net for her own flat
Then She can tray her English skills in ICQ workingcom workingcom
And I voluntary for that experiment :fire :fire
And way don You Diz sett up an complete Cam Show installation in the Tiger baby Flat?? :sarcastic :thankyou
Tiger Bab"Y" needs to be able to redd this:
http://board.mashasworld.com/v3/showthread.php?t=2278
LOL
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-06, 06:11 PM
Yes a chatroom where we can talk to the dynamic duo blablablab
One other thing diesel, i see lana and sasha can post on forum, ivana has her blog, but what about my 2 favourites, The urals superstar aka Olesya and the tiger baby?
Ok The crazy baby might not be able to understand too much yet but her english really is coming on well, but olesya can. Is it possible to set it up for her to post here if she wanted?blablablab blablablab :tj
only thing with Olesya posting & why Ivana doesn't post here too often is that this forum is blocked from russian ip addresses (I don't know about Ukraine) so they have to find & use proxies to access it. this feature was enabled for the girls safety & privacy in their home country, just like sites are also blocked from Russian ips.
diesel911
2007-09-06, 08:13 PM
Sounds good. This was something we have discussed before.
How's development of live chat software going?
We have finished the video part of the live chat. We must finish before this year ends so this is a good sign :) Our programing crew is expanding x3 these days.
diesel911
2007-09-06, 08:15 PM
How about a forum access in the Diesel Access area. (where any member from any or all sites can access the forum faster).
And the same with the past recorded cam chat show archives? ;)
We will move forum there for sure, for live records will be real mess, I was thinking to add even recent updates for all sites in DieselAccess but we gave up with this idea
We have finished the video part of the live chat
Excellent. Have you managed to achieve any improvements on size/resolution/framerate or is this mostly limited by performer upload bandwidth?
I hope for text you can implement some of the features discussed before.
For example:
Autoscroll on/off.
Maybe incorporate http link functionality?
only thing with Olesya posting & why Ivana doesn't post here too often is that this forum is blocked from russian ip addresses (I don't know about Ukraine) so they have to find & use proxies to access it. this feature was enabled for the girls safety & privacy in their home country, just like sites are also blocked from Russian ips.
I thought the reason was so that their families didn't find out what they were doing. Olesya's family know that she entertains us so there is no reason why her ip cannot be granted access to the forum. I am assuming that the same would apply to Ivana if she has posted to the forum before.
There might be problems with new girls coming online but that may have to be dealt with.
When it comes to frame rate this does need sorting out. Judging by the frame rate we get from Lana it looks as though it has something to do with feed from Russia. I have seen that Met-art who also have feeds from Russian cams do not have problems with feed rate. It would be nice to have a bigger screen size if the system can handle it. Quality comes down to the web cam being used so each cam should be a high quality one.
It would be nice to talk privately with the girl but I understand this was abused in the past. However there are not too many regular viewers like those with all access who I am sure would not abuse it. It could be set up so these members have access to private chat based on their ip address. Oh yes and if someone is kicked off then they should lose their access to the feed and anonymous viewers should be blocked too.
I thought the reason was so that their families didn't find out what they were doing. Olesya's family know that she entertains us so there is no reason why her ip cannot be granted access to the forum. I am assuming that the same would apply to Ivana if she has posted to the forum before.
This is not the exclusive reason, although keeping families unaware, is for most girls the main issue, it also applies outside the family circle and extends to friends and others they associate with at University etc.
This is to prevent them being stalked by Russian psychos or mobbed in streets when they go shopping etc.
I think it is an excellent idea and I would do nothing to risk the safety of the girls.
So blocking Russian IP addresses from the sites and Forum is a sound idea, but why a workaround for all girls can not be provided by Tech Support eludes me? :confused:
boy1dur
2007-09-07, 02:32 PM
I don't understand the whole IP Address situation.
Is there a lot of High Tech Stalkers that know how to trace IP Addresses to the Original Home Address there in Russia?
Here in the United States there are Thousands upon Thousands of Girls that have Forums for their websites and there has never been any problems with Stalkers tracing Home Addresses through IP Addresses. :confused:
thunderfoot256
2007-09-07, 02:56 PM
It would be nice to talk privately with the girl but I understand this was abused in the past. However there are not too many regular viewers like those with all access who I am sure would not abuse it. It could be set up so these members have access to private chat based on their ip address. Oh yes and if someone is kicked off then they should lose their access to the feed and anonymous viewers should be blocked too.
This is a good idea blablablab
And about the russian access denied for privacy reasons to the girls, i am all for that, but my original post about letting Olesya post was based on what max has said, a special access for her and whatever girl would like but dosen't have access to forums) only, not for any russian psycho, i'm sure this could be done.
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-07, 03:04 PM
I don't understand the whole IP Address situation.
Is there a lot of High Tech Stalkers that know how to trace IP Addresses to the Original Home Address there in Russia?
Here in the United States there are Thousands upon Thousands of Girls that have Forums for their websites and there has never been any problems with Stalkers tracing Home Addresses through IP Addresses. :confused:
no this forum blocks all ip addresses from Russia, so Russians don't stumble in here by accident. The websites also block Russian ips to prevent Russians from joining. The was an incident a while back where the block was taken off during an upgrade and an acquaintance of Ivana joined her site by credit card. It was very unnerving for her knowing someone she knew closely was watching by live chat. Also if the Russian ips were not blocked, then there is the remote possibility some wacko in Moscow could recognize a girl from here on the street & start stalking them.
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-07, 03:11 PM
This is a good idea blablablab
And about the russian access denied for privacy reasons to the girls, i am all for that, but my original post about letting Olesya post was based on what max has said, a special access for her and whatever girl would like but dosen't have access to forums) only, not for any russian psycho, i'm sure this could be done.
it can be done easily by using a proxy server. most proxies don't last long though and a new one needs to be found. That is Ivana's problem with accessing this forum. she used to post quite often until her proxy quit. I find some for her sometimes, but by the time she tries to use it, it has quit working too.:p
Also if the Russian ips were not blocked, then there is the remote possibility some wacko in Moscow could recognize a girl from here on the street & start stalking them.
This has already happened to Sasha in Kiev, she was out shopping one day when a guy came up to her on the street, luckily not a stalker, just a simple fan who asked for her autograph ;)
This has already happened to Sasha in Kiev, she was out shopping one day when a guy came up to her on the street, luckily not a stalker, just a simple fan who asked for her autograph ;)
which doesn't actually mean the guy knew her from this site.
some of the girls at least from the Ukraine have worked with other fotographers and have their nude pics published on other sites, no porn but explicit nude :D
(some of the pics re real good)
and I don't think those sites are all blocked for east eutopean IPs
nude pics in any way can not only become a prob for a girl here, but for any girl who poses for a cam and has her pics published in the net.
so anything what keeps them safe is more important than a bit more fun
Regarding private options in chat, I am not in favour. This was removed not because of abuse but because you end up with lots of invisible conversations that make no sense. It often comes across as rude and selfish.
There can be occasions when it might be important to get private information to a performer. Perhaps there is room for a system where a performer can invite a private response from a particular user - ie. give them permission. Or maybe any private message sent from a performer automatically allows one in return?
Regarding private options in chat, I am not in favour. This was removed not because of abuse but because you end up with lots of invisible conversations that make no sense. It often comes across as rude and selfish.
I miss PRV mode, I found it useful, especially when helping girls with their English spelling and grammar without seeming that I was trying to make them look stupid in front of others.
But I agree it made a mess of shows when certain members over used it and the resultant replies from the girls made no sense what ever to the rest of us, especially when they spoke their replies in Russian. This became very boring and distracted us from the show itself.
It was these selfish members that caused it's demise and chats have been better for it's removal ever since.
But if posible to be enabled at discretion of the girls or automtaically when PRV sent by a girl, I would welcome such a limited version back again, but no way in it's orginal unlimited form.
I miss PRV mode...
But if posible to be enabled at discretion of the girls or automtaically when PRV sent by a girl, I would welcome such a limited version back again, but no way in it's orginal unlimited form.
Yes is it possible to have PVR mod in the way that only the Girl's can open an PVR Chat.
Bat wen opened bay the girl the PVR'd member can replay in PVR mood???
Edit: You can lock the PRV function even harder!
1 Outgoing Msg form the Girl to member.
Gives the Msg'd member 1 PRV replay to the Girl.
This is a good idea blablablab
And about the russian access denied for privacy reasons to the girls, i am all for that, but my original post about letting Olesya post was based on what max has said, a special access for her and whatever girl would like but dosen't have access to forums) only, not for any russian psycho, i'm sure this could be done.
To open access to the forum for all the girls in an way that they can read an replay!! :fire :thumbsup
Whit out having the problem whit the Russian IP block!
And in some way that isn't based up on an Proxy that has an limited time before it's work around id DEED! :(
Then no moor access to the forum for the girls :(
Wen taking to Sasha yesterday she sad the she didn't have any access to the forum any moor the Proxy had goon DEED :(
Edit: You can lock the PRV function even harder!
1 Outgoing Msg form the Girl to member.
Gives the Msg'd member 1 PRV replay to the Girl.
That's exactly what I suggested.
diesel911
2007-09-08, 07:23 PM
Excellent. Have you managed to achieve any improvements on size/resolution/framerate or is this mostly limited by performer upload bandwidth?
I hope for text you can implement some of the features discussed before.
For example:
Autoscroll on/off.
Maybe incorporate http link functionality?
Looks like we got better pic though were not tested yet from Ukraine.
Rest functions are in
diesel911
2007-09-08, 07:25 PM
Some Russians are crazy .. We better keep our girls out of their hands :)
This is not developed country as US or West Europe.
I thought I had covered the private chat bit by asking that it be granted to members who had all access. I am pretty certain that these are loyal members who also attend chats. They would not abuse this priviledge. I also believe that they are capable of ensuring they don't distract a girl so she stops entertaining the rest of the audience. I can see the advantages suggested by show and nic and would go along with them.
A private conversation is for something that either the member or the girl doesn't want others to see. I don't think, for instance, that helping a girl with their English warrants being in private.
Access to the forum can be done if a girl knows how to find and use a proxy server. However this is a messy procedure and it should be possible to allow access to a girl's service i.e. block all russian ips except their ip.
diesel911
2007-09-09, 04:26 PM
What I can say for sure we will have private 1 on 1 chat as well, so thee will be special hours where it will be possible to purchase real private chat.
What I can say for sure we will have private 1 on 1 chat as well, so thee will be special hours where it will be possible to purchase real private chat.
I do not like the sound of this. :(
Suggests the present excellent MW will be become a 2 tiered system, where those paying extra will get more exclusive service.
Day that happens I will be moving on and cancelling my membership, as sites where you have to pay for private chat have never and never will interest me.. :(
What I can say for sure we will have private 1 on 1 chat as well, so thee will be special hours where it will be possible to purchase real private chat.
I don't like this idea and it should be consigned to that place it belongs. The waste bin though these days it is a shredder.
It is not consistent with the excellent, good value service you now provide. Please don't go down this road.
thunderfoot256
2007-09-09, 05:09 PM
There is no way i'm going to 'pay' :eek: to have a private chat with anyone on this site.
Rediculoushammersmas
diesel911
2007-09-09, 05:40 PM
I dont find it problematic at all, it wont cross with scheduled live shows and will be an addition for those who miss the shows and for those who wants to schedule it for some specific time.
cd2112
2007-09-09, 07:39 PM
I dont find it problematic at all, it wont cross with scheduled live shows and will be an addition for those who miss the shows and for those who wants to schedule it for some specific time.
If I want talk to Lana..I just E-mail her...and Tanya....oh and Sasha :)...
The thing is....they have their own lives...if they want to talk to me personally....all they have to do is ask....ICQ....and Yahoo messenger work just fine ...and it`s FREE!.....no offense intended...just speaking my mind :)
diesel911
2007-09-09, 07:50 PM
If I want talk to Lana..I just E-mail her...and Tanya....oh and Sasha :)...
The thing is....they have their own lives...if they want to talk to me personally....all they have to do is ask....ICQ....and Yahoo messenger work just fine ...and it`s FREE!.....no offense intended...just speaking my mind :)
This is intended for erotic shows and made for those who cant reach their shows and dont mind to give extra cash for the shows :)
diesel911
2007-09-09, 07:57 PM
The idea was to make it sort of market, where members choose the time and the money they are willing to pay and girls agree or disagree.
Bonus for girls and great shows for those who miss it for some reason.
I dont find it problematic at all, it wont cross with scheduled live shows and will be an addition for those who miss the shows and for those who wants to schedule it for some specific time.
I forsee 2 problems with this plan.
1. There will be 2 levels of members:-
a. Those who won't pay to go private 1 - 1 or those who can't afford to
b. Those who will and can afford it.
This means certain indviduals will have completely different level of interaction with the girls and this is bound to have an effect on the normal shows as we know them.
And the site will become the same as so many other webchat sites.
2. As we know from present, some girls are much more popular than others.
If this translates into Private 1 - 1 pay for shows this could lead to friction among the girls as jealousy sets in between them.
The thing that retains me here month after month is the webcam chat as it now operates.
Although I have no complaint about the DieselAccess sites and their downloadable content, I do know of better value elsewhere.
e.g. Without too much thought I can immediately think of one site that provides a minimum of 10 good sites or for a slightly higher fee 31 sites for the price of one membership, or another that gives 19 good sites for price of 1 membership. And if I thought a bit deeper I am sure I would find more. Of course at present they offer nothing to rival the present Webchat as we know it, but sounds to me that you are about to make your site lose that unique appeal and attraction, that seperates it from the rest out there.
As I have said earlier, if you take this path I will have no interest in rebilling here any longer and staying to watch membership divide into two tiers or the girls fight amongst themselves. I will leave with my happy memories and these other sites will get my rebills instead.
But it is your site and your business and your decision.
diesel911
2007-09-09, 10:53 PM
Without too much thought I can immediately think of one site that provides a minimum of 10 good sites or for a slightly higher fee 31 sites for the price of one membership, or another that gives 19 good sites for price of 1 membership.
I know those sites very well, quantity never was partner of quality :o
These 50 sites for one membership are the most boring sites I ever saw.
You wont cheat me I know adult industry :)
Anyway, we are building our software with private chat included and we will make a research between our members before we launch new live software and decide together with the girls. The private chat we will need for another project we develop.
P.S.
Dont tell me you will leave again :D
I know those sites very well, quantity never was partner of quality :o
These 50 sites for one membership are the most boring sites I ever saw.
You wont cheat me I know adult industry :)
Anyway, we are building our software with private chat included and we will make a research between our members before we launch new live software and decide together with the girls. The private chat we will need for another project we develop.
P.S.
Dont tell me you will leave again :D
Did I say ALL sites were perfect? ;)
I only used these as examples
But is some good stuff there, I used to be a member until time spent with your girls gave me no time to download and unzip their content anymore lol
Ivana and the girls have left me with a long list of expired urls in my IE Favourites ;)
Research is good, as I say it is your decision, but for me it would be bad plan for your site. What you have here now is really very special and IMHO you wll be risking throwing your business advantage away with this move.
At present I am perfectly happy paying full membership month after month as I have done since May 2005 and paying the one off fee as you launch each new site. But I have never paid for private chats anywhere and I have no intention of changing that now here or anywhere else.
I read your post that this is planned as only a method for those outside show time windows to be able to get to chat with girls, but I fear this is only the foot being put in the door as regards webcam chat which I can see moving towards the model of the now dying YP Live format.
I hope I am wrong and my concerns amount to nothing ;)
As regard me leaving, you do relize this is the first anniversary of the last time? :D
Billy Cigarette
2007-09-09, 11:24 PM
1. There will be 2 levels of members:-
a. Those who won't pay to go private 1 - 1 or those who can't afford to
b. Those who will and can afford it.
This means certain indviduals will have completely different level of interaction with the girls and this is bound to have an effect on the normal shows as we know them.
And the site will become the same as so many other webchat sites.
Same could be said about paying users vs none paying users or prospective members. The pages the general public see on most of these sites don't appear to have been updated in a very long time, hence no motivation to join as it looks like there's never any new content. That's like a high street fashion store, displaying clothing from last years trends in its window, as opposed to the one opposite which keeps its window displays up to date, which would you go to.
It's always been the case though, those who pay more get better or more service/features. While the cost remains the same for those who don't want to or can't. It's a more popular situation than upping the price for the same or less content/features/service across the board.
mteagle
2007-09-10, 12:23 AM
itsallgood :eek: The idea was to make it sort of market, where members choose the time and the money they are willing to pay and girls agree or disagree.
Bonus for girls and great shows for those who miss it for some reason.
pimp hammersmas southpark blablablab blablablab
so like me that because of my work schedule and time differences and the girl willing i can get my privet show as long as i'm willing to pay the price ????pimp southpark and it will be live and solo ????:confused: :confused: like when i picked up a friend in nam ???peace peace southpark
Although I'm not a fan of the general 'private show' concept being promoted here, I don't see it actually being a problem.
If it's in addition to normal schedule and at the discretion of performers then why not? Members have often requested so the demand is clearly there. If the performer wants to do it then it will benefit both parties.
boy1dur
2007-09-10, 06:09 AM
I think that Private 1 on 1 shows will be good for some of the girls, bringing in extra cash.
But I find 2 big problems with private 1 on 1 shows.
1.) The regular shows might suffer because if the girls are getting payed extra money to do what they would in the free chat for members then the free chats will see less. Less Explicit nudity, Less Masturbation, etc.....The girls might think why show in free chat what I am getting payed to do in in private 1 on 1 shows.
I have been joining sites since february of 2005, I get payed pretty good money and I will honestly say that I will join on the average about 5 to 7 site each month, (I also cancel alot of my memberships) as a matter of fact one of the first sites I joined was MW.
I have had and also right now I do have membership for a couple of sites where the girls do regular free chat for paying members and also do Private 1 on 1 shows for who ever wants to buy one, and I know that these girls do more in the Private 1 on 1 shows than they do in the free chat for their members.
I fear that if you do start Private 1 on 1 shows the girls will save all the Hottest shows for those who will pay for it.
2.) If you do start the Private 1 on 1 shows what will happen to the recorded live shows free for Paying members?
I have been patiently waiting for new recorded shows to be put on the sites that have them.
I work 5 days a week I get wednesdays and fridays off so I can watch the live chats on those 2 days, the rest of the week If the live chats start early enough I might get to watch an Hour this day or an Hour that day, but there are alot of shows that I miss because I have to work and Make money so I can pay to be a member.
I don't like picture sets, I am here for the Videos, And live chats are good too.
And when you put the chats onto videos and put them up on the sites for us paying members that is more videos for me to watch and I get my moneys worth and get to see what I am missing when I am working to make money So I can pay for my membership.
I get to see live chats on 2 different days and If you do these Private 1 on 1 chats I am afraid that you will no longer feel like giving us recorded live chats and so that will be more videos that I looked forward to seeing that you will no longer be giving us.
Diesel, You have gotten to know me here in the forum, I have Praised you, Praised your sites and your Girls, Other memebers Have gotten to know me A little here in the forum and in the Live chats, I am not a big complainer and you have even complimented some of my Ideas.
I have All Access to the Diesel sites, I do not wait 3 months to upgrade the new sites that come up, I pay extra to get them right away, I Love having All Access and when I say All Access I mean when I pay monthly and pay extra for upgrades then I get "All Access".
I can not Afford Extra money to pay to see the girls that I miss in free chat that everyone else gets to see for free When I am At Work.
I would feel like I am being punished for missing the Free live chats by having to work.
Now like I said, I have been Patiently waiting for the newer chats that I have missed to be put onto videos and placed on the sites that have the recorded shows on them, And if you do start the Private shows I fear that the recorded shows will no longer be made. And I will still be able to watch live chats only 2 days each week and feel like I am missing out on all the Hot chats that I miss when I am at work.
I hope that this doesn't sound like a big Complaint, I have always liked your Ideas that you come up with to better the sites and I don't want you thinking that I don't appreciate what you give us cause I do.
southpark
What I can say for sure we will have private 1 on 1 chat as well, so thee will be special hours where it will be possible to purchase real private chat.
This is a very BAD IDEA!!!!!madbam madbam madbam
I agree with all the comments being made about the 2 level service, the way it will make some people feel they are more 'privileged' because they are willing to pay extra because they have the money!!!.inmadwaygf inmadwaygf
I for one, will not be using any pay for 1 on 1 private chat. :fire :fire :fire
This sounds like a way to use the girls (Ivana, Sasha, Olesya, Lana, Tiger and any new girl) to replace 'YP Live' .
This would destroy the atmosphere , the comradely, the feel to the live shows.
:( :( :( :(
This would destroy the atmosphere , the comradely, the feel to the live shows.
:( :( :( :(
Well said Mr. President. :)
I agree 100%. This plan goes ahead, the 'magic' of MW will have gone for me and thus the adhesive that binds me here month after month..
thunderfoot256
2007-09-10, 03:53 PM
1.) The regular shows might suffer because if the girls are getting payed extra money to do what they would in the free chat for members then the free chats will see less. Less Explicit nudity, Less Masturbation, etc.....The girls might think why show in free chat what I am getting payed to do in in private 1 on 1 shows.
Holy mackeral robin, the above says it all.claphands
But it seems diesel has already made his mind up before he even mentioned the idea. Well it is your site diesel, go for it, but i wont be part of it.
Holy mackeral robin, the above says it all.claphands
But it seems diesel has already made his mind up before he even mentioned the idea. Well it is your site diesel, go for it, but i wont be part of it.
What is being overlooked here by boy1dur is that the shows are not 'free!'
They are part of a package we pay monthly subscription for, along with the few remaining actively updated sites.
Take the shows away and with the present number of 'dead' Diesel sites that subscription starts to look very expensive compared to other sites.
thunderfoot256
2007-09-10, 04:04 PM
I agree, now i have downloaded all the stuff worthwile the updates are few and far between as far as interest to me goes (everyone has their own tastes obviously) so i am not here for content any more. Although every so often a nice video or pic set appears. (olesya comes to mind lol)
It is the shows i am here for. Well worth the subscription for the shows featuring my fav girls.
But shows aside the content bit applies to any website in this industry, there can only ever be a limited shelf life for individual tastes.
workingcom :)
mteagle
2007-09-10, 09:20 PM
Holy mackeral robin, the above says it all.claphands
But it seems diesel has already made his mind up before he even mentioned the idea. Well it is your site diesel, go for it, but i wont be part of it.
hammersmas hammersmas hammersmas hammersmas :crazy :crazy
you can already see this in oleseya's show's sorry" moya podruga southpark peace " if you want more come to my privt show $$$$$ am i wrong diz???
The private chat we will need for another project we develop.
P.S.
Dont tell me you will leave again :D
Don't know wot the special project is.
Bat use it for this special project!
Bat not as an 1 on 1 Cam Show for $$$$!!
Any other improvement's regarding Cam Show's is happily appreciated :D
Moor Cam Show: Moor Flats, Moor/New Girls, Some ca ind off tow way working PRV system,......
diesel911
2007-09-11, 04:13 PM
Guys you try to compare us to other sites while the idea has nothing even close to the live cam websites which exist online.
Example:
Olesya got 3 shows a week, as usual, completely same shows as we have now.
Now she has more free time for another 2 shows. She says, I can do private show on Monday 15:00 Moscow time for 30 mins. There are MANY members who cant attend the scheduled shows due to time difference. Member A says I can pay for it 10$, B says 20$ and C says 35$. Like sort of auction.
This is has nothing to do with the sites where girl is sitting topless and waiting for money show. There is no commercial interest for us in this, its pure extra money for models and finally to give the opportunity for Americans or Japanese which are missing the shows usually.
Think a bit the girls who might make some extra cash and for the members who should wake up 4 AM to see the shows and maybe you will understand the idea better.
diesel911
2007-09-11, 04:17 PM
I think that Private 1 on 1 shows will be good for some of the girls, bringing in extra cash.
But I find 2 big problems with private 1 on 1 shows.
1.) The regular shows might suffer because if the girls are getting payed extra money to do what they would in the free chat for members then the free chats will see less. Less Explicit nudity, Less Masturbation, etc.....The girls might think why show in free chat what I am getting payed to do in in private 1 on 1 shows.
I have been joining sites since february of 2005, I get payed pretty good money and I will honestly say that I will join on the average about 5 to 7 site each month, (I also cancel alot of my memberships) as a matter of fact one of the first sites I joined was MW.
I have had and also right now I do have membership for a couple of sites where the girls do regular free chat for paying members and also do Private 1 on 1 shows for who ever wants to buy one, and I know that these girls do more in the Private 1 on 1 shows than they do in the free chat for their members.
I fear that if you do start Private 1 on 1 shows the girls will save all the Hottest shows for those who will pay for it.
2.) If you do start the Private 1 on 1 shows what will happen to the recorded live shows free for Paying members?
I have been patiently waiting for new recorded shows to be put on the sites that have them.
I work 5 days a week I get wednesdays and fridays off so I can watch the live chats on those 2 days, the rest of the week If the live chats start early enough I might get to watch an Hour this day or an Hour that day, but there are alot of shows that I miss because I have to work and Make money so I can pay to be a member.
I don't like picture sets, I am here for the Videos, And live chats are good too.
And when you put the chats onto videos and put them up on the sites for us paying members that is more videos for me to watch and I get my moneys worth and get to see what I am missing when I am working to make money So I can pay for my membership.
I get to see live chats on 2 different days and If you do these Private 1 on 1 chats I am afraid that you will no longer feel like giving us recorded live chats and so that will be more videos that I looked forward to seeing that you will no longer be giving us.
Diesel, You have gotten to know me here in the forum, I have Praised you, Praised your sites and your Girls, Other memebers Have gotten to know me A little here in the forum and in the Live chats, I am not a big complainer and you have even complimented some of my Ideas.
I have All Access to the Diesel sites, I do not wait 3 months to upgrade the new sites that come up, I pay extra to get them right away, I Love having All Access and when I say All Access I mean when I pay monthly and pay extra for upgrades then I get "All Access".
I can not Afford Extra money to pay to see the girls that I miss in free chat that everyone else gets to see for free When I am At Work.
I would feel like I am being punished for missing the Free live chats by having to work.
Now like I said, I have been Patiently waiting for the newer chats that I have missed to be put onto videos and placed on the sites that have the recorded shows on them, And if you do start the Private shows I fear that the recorded shows will no longer be made. And I will still be able to watch live chats only 2 days each week and feel like I am missing out on all the Hot chats that I miss when I am at work.
I hope that this doesn't sound like a big Complaint, I have always liked your Ideas that you come up with to better the sites and I don't want you thinking that I don't appreciate what you give us cause I do.
southpark
No one ever said that we will replace the existing shows.
Imagine that our girls besides the shows they make now with us, they keep working on other sites, and I know one girl like this. Dont you think its better we let them go live with us?
diesel911
2007-09-11, 04:22 PM
But it seems diesel has already made his mind up before he even mentioned the idea. Well it is your site diesel
It is my site and it is no secret but I am sure you have already paid attention that we are so open to all discussions with our members as no one else does it, the only rule to this to keep it in the right away so as you see the discussion is open and ALIVE lol
thunderfoot256
2007-09-11, 04:38 PM
I happen to think this is the best site i have found so far, it's the only 1 i am a member of as most others dry up to quickly.
Because when you see pics/vids of girls it is just another girl getting naked or shagging, but here you get to know a little about your fav girls from the shows and so the pics/vids become more appealing.
I've forgot what i was writing about now...:crazy
oh yes, this site is open for discussion as i have noticed but it seems noone that has posted on forum agrees with you on this topic of 1 on 1 chat yet but you have just made 3 posts in a row. workingcom
So who are you trying to convince, us or yourself :p
I wont leave if you do 1 on 1, never intended too, not that 1 member will make any differance on these sights anyway but i just wont be part of it.
I am here for the urals superstar aka mafia girl aka olesya and the tiger baby shows and their pic/vid content, as long as that stays as it is or improves then hey, i'm happy, but i wont go to their 1 on 1 shows lol.blablablab
Look forward to the olesya and tigerbaby websites. :fire
boy1dur
2007-09-11, 04:41 PM
Imagine that our girls besides the shows they make now with us, they keep working on other sites, and I know one girl like this. Dont you think its better we let them go live with us? Okay I don't understand what you said here?
diesel911
2007-09-11, 04:58 PM
I happen to think this is the best site i have found so far, it's the only 1 i am a member of as most others dry up to quickly.
Because when you see pics/vids of girls it is just another girl getting naked or shagging, but here you get to know a little about your fav girls from the shows and so the pics/vids become more appealing.
I've forgot what i was writing about now...:crazy
oh yes, this site is open for discussion as i have noticed but it seems noone that has posted on forum agrees with you on this topic of 1 on 1 chat yet but you have just made 3 posts in a row. workingcom
So who are you trying to convince, us or yourself :p
I wont leave if you do 1 on 1, never intended too, not that 1 member will make any differance on these sights anyway but i just wont be part of it.
I am here for the urals superstar aka mafia girl aka olesya and the tiger baby shows and their pic/vid content, as long as that stays as it is or improves then hey, i'm happy, but i wont go to their 1 on 1 shows lol.blablablab
Look forward to the olesya and tigerbaby websites. :fire
Hehe, I am fighting for my idea and trying to explain that it wont mess up with what we have now.
Thank you for your compliments about the sites.
diesel911
2007-09-11, 05:03 PM
Okay I don't understand what you said here?
Some of our models may work on other 1 on 1 sites as well and you dont feel the difference.
So we better keep them for our members.
We can limit the rules and not allow for the models to perform 1 on 1 on same day as their scheduled show. What do you think of it?
Also it can be 1on 2 or 1 on 3 lol no limits for us. What I try to explain you that this is has nothing to do with common 1 on 1 sites which I dont like the way they work and charge their customers
Hehe, I am fighting for my idea and trying to explain that it wont mess up with what we have now.
Thank you for your compliments about the sites.
I welcome the Forum and the fact we can discuss these things directly with you. :)
After your last posts I sort of see where your thinking is at, but still remain unconvinced is a good idea.
But I will watch and see how it developes. ;)
If it does not lead to 2 levels of service to members in webcam and or infighting between girls jealous of each other's bonus income, then fair enough, but I remain concerned that this will be the outcome.
thunderfoot256
2007-09-11, 05:04 PM
I have only one suggestion for the content on the sites.
Please, Please get away from picture sets that are low quality screen captures of videos. :( I would much rather see professionally shot, high quality HD pictures. The quality you have now on the videos is excellent. claphands Offer the videos in full length HD and lower quality, broken into pieces versions for slow connection members.
:hahaha scrredd :eek:
Now either i am going crazy and seeing things or ... this sentance above was just posted by geode, then deleted and post by you know who, no not voldermort, the other one. :confused:
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-11, 05:12 PM
Hehe, I am fighting for my idea and trying to explain that it wont mess up with what we have now.
Thank you for your compliments about the sites.
I won't be getting any 1 on 1's either, but I don't mind the girls getting a chance at extra cash. I was only worried that current chat format would change or if the private chats became popular enough, the regular chat format would go away.
You said you wouldn't change the regular format, so as long as that stays that way, I'm a happy camper. The big fear everyone has here is some of the girls might make regular shows less erotic when they can make more doing it in private. As for me I don't care how much or little erotic a show is, I'm here for chatting with my chums. (yes I am a silly nilly :p)
boy1dur
2007-09-11, 05:58 PM
Okay, write now I have to get ready to go to work, I must leave in 10 minutes, Tiger has a live chat going on right now and she is having computer problems, if the problem is fixed I will still miss the show.
My main question is are you gonna still be puting recorded chats onto the sites or will the private 1 on 1 replace the recorded chats with no more new recorded chats.
I can not Afford private 1 on 1 chats with what I pay for membership to all access, and paying upgrades for the new sites when they open.
diesel911
2007-09-11, 06:00 PM
Although it is against what I would like, if you go through with this plan, then ground rules need to be set for the girls conduct. I suggest maybe you pay competitve for free member shows so the girls will not lessen the content for them. Pay by commission only on the pay shows and any number of people can pay to watch, a 1 on N relationship. You also need to set expectations with the paying members how long they can watch for their fee.
You dont need to worry about these things, I can assure you that this will never affect scheduled shows
There was a discussion at Lana's last show. I stated at that time I was against the idea, giving a variety of reasons. However, having read the continuing discussion I now see where you are coming from Diz. I will support your idea for private shows provided, as you stated, they are restricted to days when the girl(s) are not doing their normal web cam show.
The 1 to 1 web cam shows, put on by the girls, should not differ in content from what they do now in their free shows. Lana made a comment that appeared to say she would do a pee cam show in private but not in her normal show. If this were to happen we would have a two tier membership system.
I am pleased that you say the site is not taking a cut and all the money will go to the girls. I want the girls to earn extra money for providing a service. I don't like sites that make a charge and only pay the girl a portion. This is what I meant when I commented to Lana that the proposed service was akin to prostitution.
The idea of an auction based on what a member would pay is not good. I think that a flat rate is a better idea. I am assuming these extra shows will be for members of your sites only and that no advertising of this service will be on pages viewed by the public.
If a member wants to arrange a 1 to 2,3 etc show then I have no objections to this. It's a twist on the 1 to 1 idea but can be advantageous. A bit like a dancer who puts on a show, in private, for a small group.
diesel911
2007-09-11, 06:13 PM
OK so lets make it clear WE WILL NEVER NEVEEEER CHANGE THE CURRENT SHOW STYLE :)
This is something we developed and we have the best shows and it wont be changed in any form, more than this, with the new live soft we plan to put it on higher level, adding 4 cams per room and also add cameras in rest rooms and try to get some 24 hours coverage.
...with the new live soft we plan to put it on higher level, adding 4 cams per room and also add cameras in rest rooms and try to get some 24 hours coverage.
All off this in Tiger's FLAT i hope ;) :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou
diesel911
2007-09-11, 06:18 PM
There was a discussion at Lana's last show. I stated at that time I was against the idea, giving a variety of reasons. However, having read the continuing discussion I now see where you are coming from Diz. I will support your idea for private shows provided, as you stated, they are restricted to days when the girl(s) are not doing their normal web cam show.
The 1 to 1 web cam shows, put on by the girls, should not differ in content from what they do now in their free shows. Lana made a comment that appeared to say she would do a pee cam show in private but not in her normal show. If this were to happen we would have a two tier membership system.
I am pleased that you say the site is not taking a cut and all the money will go to the girls. I want the girls to earn extra money for providing a service. I don't like sites that make a charge and only pay the girl a portion. This is what I meant when I commented to Lana that the proposed service was akin to prostitution.
The idea of an auction based on what a member would pay is not good. I think that a flat rate is a better idea. I am assuming these extra shows will be for members of your sites only and that no advertising of this service will be on pages viewed by the public.
If a member wants to arrange a 1 to 2,3 etc show then I have no objections to this. It's a twist on the 1 to 1 idea but can be advantageous. A bit like a dancer who puts on a show, in private, for a small group.
They are not doing free shows now :) So no panic about it.
Quality wont get down for sure. girls will get about 60% of the money, rest will go for administration and billing cost which are high in adult.
diesel911
2007-09-11, 06:20 PM
All off this in Tiger's FLAT i hope ;) :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou :thankyou
Tiger Ivana Olesya and Sasha but it will take time of course I see it all working around 1st of April while first site that will have such features will go up around 1st of February and will be SashaBlonde
mteagle
2007-09-11, 06:33 PM
claphands OK so lets make it clear WE WILL NEVER NEVEEEER CHANGE THE CURRENT SHOW STYLE :)
This is something we developed and we have the best shows and it wont be changed in any form, more than this, with the new live soft we plan to put it on higher level, adding 4 cams per room and also add cameras in rest rooms and try to get some 24 hours coverage.
:banana :music
i am all for new sites and ideas it how business growpimp but mabey the concentration should be more on getting what we are offered now working properly and then going into new idea's sorry for change of subjectsouthpark hammersmas peace peace for thouse who want 1on?fine but i hope it don't change the attitude of the girls about the one's who use the service and the one's who don't :confused: peace peace :wow:joker
Richard
2007-09-11, 10:47 PM
This is a very BAD IDEA!!!!!madbam madbam madbam
I agree with all the comments being made about the 2 level service, the way it will make some people feel they are more 'privileged' because they are willing to pay extra because they have the money!!!.inmadwaygf inmadwaygf
I for one, will not be using any pay for 1 on 1 private chat. :fire :fire :fire
This sounds like a way to use the girls (Ivana, Sasha, Olesya, Lana, Tiger and any new girl) to replace 'YP Live' .
This would destroy the atmosphere , the comradely, the feel to the live shows.
:( :( :( :(
100% agree with Dr Geo!
oh yes, this site is open for discussion as i have noticed but it seems noone that has posted on forum agrees with you on this topic of 1 on 1 chat yet
Not totally true ;)
Think a bit the girls who might make some extra cash and for the members who should wake up 4 AM to see the shows and maybe you will understand the idea better.
That's how I saw it all along.
However,
OK so lets make it clear WE WILL NEVER NEVEEEER CHANGE THE CURRENT SHOW STYLE :)
valid points were made about the temptation where extra money is involved. How do you propose to make sure this does not influence performers?
Something about open bidding concerns me too. But I can't deny I'm not intrigued to see how high they might go!
Extra cams sound great - almost like the old days!
What I can say for sure we will have private 1 on 1 chat as well, so thee will be special hours where it will be possible to purchase real private chat.
don't be a fool diz. we are all members of your sites because it is a unique system. none of us want to be members of a 1on1 livechat site. dieselaccess will be like every other site on the net.
I will certainly leave so you can make room for all the real perverts, scum, and transients that will pass through these pages. if this is what you want to be surrounded by, well...... have a nice day!!! you will lose the backbone of membership that has remained here since the beginning.
[QUOTE=diesel911]The idea was to make it sort of market, where members choose the time and the money they are willing to pay and girls agree or disagree.
Bonus for girls and great shows for those who miss it for some reason.[/QUOTE
it is designed to make money. it is designed to make this site a replacement for youngporn live. it is designed to make dieselaccess mainstream and lacking personality.
BFofAKournikova
2007-09-12, 12:25 PM
don't be a fool diz. we are all members of your sites because it is a unique system. none of us want to be members of a 1on1 livechat site. dieselaccess will be like every other site on the net.
I will certainly leave so you can make room for all the real perverts, scum, and transients that will pass through these pages. if this is what you want to be surrounded by, well...... have a nice day!!! you will lose the backbone of membership that has remained here since the beginning.
blin weez a little feisty are we? :gr: :p
I personally don't care for it myself either, but I'm willing to let it be tried since the regular chats will still be here and supposedly unchanged.
diesel911
2007-09-12, 04:20 PM
The idea was to make it sort of market, where members choose the time and the money they are willing to pay and girls agree or disagree.
Bonus for girls and great shows for those who miss it for some reason.[/QUOTE
it is designed to make money. it is designed to make this site a replacement for youngporn live. it is designed to make dieselaccess mainstream and lacking personality.
Do you think 200$ a week is designed to make money? Operational costs of running DieselAccess are over 250k$ a month.
You are banned for a week from the forum because your guesses has nothing to do with us and its among only few simple rules we have on board.
Everything we do for our members and girls is done for increase in level of services. We NEVER put profits on first line. First thing we think about is our models, second in the row are our members and after it all we think how we can make it in the way to make it profitable, and many things we did before without profit at all and loosing money, just to achieve the idea.This is a gold rule here and even if it looks otherwise for you, you can always be sure that we do it right and thats why you are still here, enjoying the sites. We never went for mainstream thought we could make 3 times more money with it. In the beggining we suffered alot with MashaWorld but we didnt go for mainstream even when we had no profits for 4 months at all. Now times are changing finally and people look for sensitive content, for real girls and real relations. This is our era and we want to use it for putting our sites on high technology end.
Lets make a deal with the issue of additional private chats.
When it will technically ready and the deadline we cant pass is 1st of January 2008, we will try it for 2 weeks and all together using poll system decide if we like it or not. One more time it has nothing to do with mainstream 1 on 1 chat and I dont understand how could you think we will switch the live cams we have now OFF.
boy1dur
2007-09-12, 07:51 PM
WoW!!
You know this topic is starting to heat up in here.
I just have 1 question that I have already asked twice in this thread and have not gotten an answer to yet: Diesel are you still gonna put up recorded chat show?
Now I see both sides of this debate, being a member to the sites I do see the concerns that the members do have, they are legit, but on the other hand I do also see where Diesel is coming from, If I was in charge of all this I would be overwelmed with what everyone is asking for, what the girls want and also what I would want from the sites, What the girls want is the #1 priority, they are the ones that are giving Diesel the content to give to us, but If I was in charge and I wasn't getting what I wanted or needed then why would I want to do this anymore.
There are probably up in the thousands of members to the forums here but only a handful post here.
When you see a Movie at the local Movie theater the cost of popcorn and soft drinks and candy...all the food in Concessions is so high priced, the reason for this is that most of the ticket sales you pay to watch the movie goes back to the company that makes the Movie, so the theater makes it's money by Concession sales.
What I am saying is that as the consumer we pay for our Entertainment, and If it costs alot we always complain but we don't stop to think about all that goes into running a large company, the cost, the product, etc...
all we really think about is what we want, but we also have to think about what does it take for the company to give me what I want, what does the company have to give up to please me.
I have to agree with what Diesel said "we are all still here" He has a product that we pay for and want, uh i gotta go now..tiger is getting naked lol
They are not doing free shows now So no panic about it.
Sorry by free I meant at no extra cost to members.
Quality wont get down for sure. girls will get about 60% of the money, rest will go for administration and billing cost which are high in adult.
I would hope that quality if you are referring to quality of the transmission would go up. I have, as I have already said, seen cam transmissions from Russia that are much better than we now have.
This also appears to be at variance with this statement you made:
This is has nothing to do with the sites where girl is sitting topless and waiting for money show. There is no commercial interest for us in this, its pure extra money for models and finally to give the opportunity for Americans or Japanese which are missing the shows usually.
40% for administration and billing costs. Administration costs should be no higher than in a non adult business. I also know that ccbill do charge rather a lot for providing their service. However there are ways to transfer money over the i-net without incurring the charges levied by ccbill. Have a look at PayPal, for instance, whose charges are 1.4% to 3.9% and include the option to use visa/mastercard for the transaction. It doesn't take too long to set up a PayPal account ether for the merchant or customer. I would think that it should be possible to raise the amount that the girl would receive.
OK so lets make it clear WE WILL NEVER NEVEEEER CHANGE THE CURRENT SHOW STYLE
This is something we developed and we have the best shows and it wont be changed in any form, more than this, with the new live soft we plan to put it on higher level, adding 4 cams per room and also add cameras in rest rooms and try to get some 24 hours coverage.
I am pleased you have confirmed that the current show content will not be changed. Can I take it if there are 4 cams per room they will be used for the current shows as well as the private shows? I am not in favour of cameras in the rest rooms wherever they are. Girls require time off cam to rest.
In a reply to weez you said that first you think of the girls, second the members, third how to make it profitable. This statement concerns me as I see each of them as being of equal importance.
I like the idea of a trial period and vote. Presumably people would also be able to contribute by email or consult option on the web page of the service.
diesel911
2007-09-13, 12:51 PM
Thank you for your billing advices, paypal stopped working with adult industry 3 years ago.
Multi cameras per room are not related to private chats at all.
Regarding the servers speed, we are planning to split member areas between States and EU. Thats why there is speed difference right now,most of the sites are hosted in Europe and being prepared right now for the split.
diesel911
2007-09-13, 12:53 PM
In a reply to weez you said that first you think of the girls, second the members, third how to make it profitable. This statement concerns me as I see each of them as being of equal importance.
Yeah, thats why we are not having mainstream look :)
sambuka
2007-09-16, 10:44 PM
no this forum blocks all ip addresses from Russia, so Russians don't stumble in here by accident. The websites also block Russian ips to prevent Russians from joining. The was an incident a while back where the block was taken off during an upgrade and an acquaintance of Ivana joined her site by credit card. It was very unnerving for her knowing someone she knew closely was watching by live chat. Also if the Russian ips were not blocked, then there is the remote possibility some wacko in Moscow could recognize a girl from here on the street & start stalking them.
I completely sympathize with the idea of protecting Ivana & the others, but it's a bit like closing one gate in a wide-open field; if you Google "Ivana Fukalot" you get about 700,000 hits, many of which are cloned sites (I assume unauthorized?) <I deleted specific examples to avoid a spell in Siberia!> - my point being that unfortunately Ivy's videos are out in the wild & obviously available to Russian stalkers equally.
That said, hopefully some of the resources & support systems are being given over to addressing personal security for the girls? If Ivy needs a 'minder' I would gladly volunteer ! Seriously though, she is and ought to take the same precautions as, any mainstream celebrity.
Sam
mteagle
2007-09-17, 02:27 AM
OK so lets make it clear WE WILL NEVER NEVEEEER CHANGE THE CURRENT SHOW STYLE :)
This is something we developed and we have the best shows and it wont be changed in any form, more than this, with the new live soft we plan to put it on higher level, adding 4 cams per room and also add cameras in rest rooms and try to get some 24 hours coverage.
southpark:confused: peace
hammersmas hammersmas
but where are the shows ??? hammersmas hammersmas
being around for a whille i realize you are useing most of models for special shoot !!!!! and you said we will be complaing about over laps " which I hate btw" I.M MISSING SOME THING HERE???and tec probs und! but days of no shows scheduled has me concerend :confused: :confused:
peace ::beer :music
""" the greatest gift a sucessful sales person has is the ablity to listen """ ME
diesel911
2007-09-17, 10:19 PM
southpark:confused: peace
hammersmas hammersmas
but where are the shows ??? hammersmas hammersmas
being around for a whille i realize you are useing most of models for special shoot !!!!! and you said we will be complaing about over laps " which I hate btw" I.M MISSING SOME THING HERE???and tec probs und! but days of no shows scheduled has me concerend :confused: :confused:
peace ::beer :music
""" the greatest gift a sucessful sales person has is the ablity to listen """ ME
All our girls besides Ivana and Lana are now with us and we are creating new content, girls will back up in 11 days and two new girls will join them right away for the live shows.
All our girls besides Ivana and Lana are now with us and we are creating new content, girls will back up in 11 days and two new girls will join them right away for the live shows.
Names, sample pics, teasing dialogue???
boy1dur
2007-09-26, 10:37 PM
Okay Diz, I have a question for you that I have already asked you 3 times in this thread and you still have not answered me :
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boy1dur
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005
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2.) If you do start the Private 1 on 1 shows what will happen to the recorded live shows free for Paying members?
I have been patiently waiting for new recorded shows to be put on the sites that have them.
I work 5 days a week I get wednesdays and fridays off so I can watch the live chats on those 2 days, the rest of the week If the live chats start early enough I might get to watch an Hour this day or an Hour that day, but there are alot of shows that I miss because I have to work and Make money so I can pay to be a member.
I get to see live chats on 2 different days and If you do these Private 1 on 1 chats I am afraid that you will no longer feel like giving us recorded live chats and so that will be more videos that I looked forward to seeing that you will no longer be givin us.
Now like I said, I have been Patiently waiting for the newer chats that I have missed to be put onto videos and placed on the sites that have the recorded shows on them, And if you do start the Private shows I fear that the recorded shows will no longer be made. And I will still be able to watch live chats only 2 days each week and feel like I am missing out on all the Hot chats that I miss when I am at work.
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09-11-2007, 12:58 PM
boy1dur
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 62
Okay, write now I have to get ready to go to work, I must leave in 10 minutes, Tiger has a live chat going on right now and she is having computer problems, if the problem is fixed I will still miss the show.
My main question is are you gonna still be puting recorded chats onto the sites or will the private 1 on 1 replace the recorded chats with no more new recorded chats.
I can not Afford private 1 on 1 chats with what I pay for membership to all access, and paying upgrades for the new sites when they open.
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09-12-2007, 02:51 PM
boy1dur
Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 62
WoW!!
You know this topic is starting to heat up in here.
I just have 1 question that I have already asked twice in this thread and have not gotten an answer to yet: Diesel are you still gonna put up recorded chat show?
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TODAY
So can you please tell me, Are you no longer gonna give us the "Recorded Videos of Past Members Cam Chats" ???
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